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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.ztrains.com/introduction/steam-locomotives-in-z-scale/#comment-1077</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Walter,

You can buy direct from Bullfrog Snot, you can either click on their ad or use this link:

http://www.bullfrogsnot.com/

John
Ztrains</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Walter,</p>
<p>You can buy direct from Bullfrog Snot, you can either click on their ad or use this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bullfrogsnot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bullfrogsnot.com/</a></p>
<p>John<br />
Ztrains</p>
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		<title>By: Walter McMillan</title>
		<link>http://www.ztrains.com/introduction/steam-locomotives-in-z-scale/#comment-1076</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter McMillan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, Where can I obtain &quot;Bullfrog Snot&quot; traction liquid?

Thanks
Walter in Ottawa ,Canada</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, Where can I obtain &#8220;Bullfrog Snot&#8221; traction liquid?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Walter in Ottawa ,Canada</p>
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		<title>By: DARIO ROMANO</title>
		<link>http://www.ztrains.com/introduction/steam-locomotives-in-z-scale/#comment-1031</link>
		<dc:creator>DARIO ROMANO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 03:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My hat&#039;s off to Marklin. There would be no Z without Marklin! I purchased a Marklin class 216 from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ztrackresale.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ztrack Resale&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; cleaned and lubed, which is a must, and it ran like new. It&#039;s the old 8875 with 3 pole motor in wood grain box was very affordable... the price of a Marklin freight car. Like I said my hats off to Marklin Z. They&#039;re beautiful little gems, couplers and all, they stand tall!

Dario</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hat&#8217;s off to Marklin. There would be no Z without Marklin! I purchased a Marklin class 216 from <a href="http://www.ztrackresale.com/" rel="nofollow"><strong>Ztrack Resale</strong></a> cleaned and lubed, which is a must, and it ran like new. It&#8217;s the old 8875 with 3 pole motor in wood grain box was very affordable&#8230; the price of a Marklin freight car. Like I said my hats off to Marklin Z. They&#8217;re beautiful little gems, couplers and all, they stand tall!</p>
<p>Dario</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest Chudzik</title>
		<link>http://www.ztrains.com/introduction/steam-locomotives-in-z-scale/#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernest Chudzik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 20:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ztrackcenter.com/tenshodo/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tenshodo&lt;/a&gt; steam locomotives. I have both the 4-8-4 and the new 4-6-4. They run super smooth but don&#039;t have much pulling power out of the box, the wheels start slipping. I like to apply a thin coat of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bullfrogsnot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BullFrog&lt;/a&gt; Snot traction tire maker to the large loco drive wheels. This takes a steady hand and a bit of patience. I dilute the BullFrog Snot a bit with water first so it goes on smooth and not so thick. I use a camel hair #1 paint brush using the manufactures application technique to apply it.  

RESULT: I have had these little Z scale steamers pulling 20 freight cars with the BullFrog Snot applied. I use it on all my Z scale locomotives. I don&#039;t like any Marklin Z scale trains at all because the big Z couplers look to fake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the <a href="http://www.ztrackcenter.com/tenshodo/index.html" rel="nofollow">Tenshodo</a> steam locomotives. I have both the 4-8-4 and the new 4-6-4. They run super smooth but don&#8217;t have much pulling power out of the box, the wheels start slipping. I like to apply a thin coat of <a href="http://www.bullfrogsnot.com/" rel="nofollow">BullFrog</a> Snot traction tire maker to the large loco drive wheels. This takes a steady hand and a bit of patience. I dilute the BullFrog Snot a bit with water first so it goes on smooth and not so thick. I use a camel hair #1 paint brush using the manufactures application technique to apply it.  </p>
<p>RESULT: I have had these little Z scale steamers pulling 20 freight cars with the BullFrog Snot applied. I use it on all my Z scale locomotives. I don&#8217;t like any Marklin Z scale trains at all because the big Z couplers look to fake.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.ztrains.com/introduction/steam-locomotives-in-z-scale/#comment-999</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Scott,

The Marklin 81418 is probably one of my favorite Marklin locos, a beautiful model. Although the model is an electric with pantographs, the heart of this model is a steam loco mechanism and steamers can be a bit finicky. Worth the effort, but they are typically a little more work.

Having sat for several years I would err on the side of safety and clean it before running, I&#039;d assume that there is a bit of HOS happening here. If you want to test it just a bit, you can put the locos on the track and apply a little power, just for a moment. If it runs, great. If it lurches a bit, then runs... not too bad. If it doesn’t move at all... it&#039;s likely going to need a good cleaning to get the hardened oil out of there.

Really many, if not most, Marklin locos are prone to HOS and it&#039;s just a good idea to get them cleaned regularly by yourself or an outside shop. Once they&#039;re taken apart and all traces of the old Marklin oil are removed, they can be lubed up with a good oil, such as Labelle #108. The Labelle oil is synthetic, not petroleum based and therefore less likely to dry out and become sticky over time.

Of course since your layout hasn&#039;t been used in years, don’t forget to clean the tracks thoroughly before testing any trains.

John Cubbin
Ztrains.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Scott,</p>
<p>The Marklin 81418 is probably one of my favorite Marklin locos, a beautiful model. Although the model is an electric with pantographs, the heart of this model is a steam loco mechanism and steamers can be a bit finicky. Worth the effort, but they are typically a little more work.</p>
<p>Having sat for several years I would err on the side of safety and clean it before running, I&#8217;d assume that there is a bit of HOS happening here. If you want to test it just a bit, you can put the locos on the track and apply a little power, just for a moment. If it runs, great. If it lurches a bit, then runs&#8230; not too bad. If it doesn’t move at all&#8230; it&#8217;s likely going to need a good cleaning to get the hardened oil out of there.</p>
<p>Really many, if not most, Marklin locos are prone to HOS and it&#8217;s just a good idea to get them cleaned regularly by yourself or an outside shop. Once they&#8217;re taken apart and all traces of the old Marklin oil are removed, they can be lubed up with a good oil, such as Labelle #108. The Labelle oil is synthetic, not petroleum based and therefore less likely to dry out and become sticky over time.</p>
<p>Of course since your layout hasn&#8217;t been used in years, don’t forget to clean the tracks thoroughly before testing any trains.</p>
<p>John Cubbin<br />
Ztrains.com</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I just read about steam engines and hardened oil syndrome on your site. I have a Z layout, nearly finished about 6 years ago, and then had to stop. I am now finishing it. 

I have an 81418 Mini-Club that has never been run, still in the box and another electric from a freight starter kit that has only been run a few minutes, years ago. Seems I should clean and re-oil these before using. Are these devices prone to HOS? 

Regards, 
Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I just read about steam engines and hardened oil syndrome on your site. I have a Z layout, nearly finished about 6 years ago, and then had to stop. I am now finishing it. </p>
<p>I have an 81418 Mini-Club that has never been run, still in the box and another electric from a freight starter kit that has only been run a few minutes, years ago. Seems I should clean and re-oil these before using. Are these devices prone to HOS? </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.ztrains.com/introduction/steam-locomotives-in-z-scale/#comment-971</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 03:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, 

Right now, as John made reference to, &quot;going under the hood&quot; is a must if you run steam by Marklin. Don&#039;t be daunted, they are very robust and you will learn so much by just doing it. Proper cleaning and lubrication is a must!

Even the old MTL moguls are using Marklin mechanisms.  I must add, the use of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ztrackcenter.com/electronics/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gaugemasters&lt;/a&gt; and a good speed controller like the Jorger or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ztrackcenter.com/electronics/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Snail Speed Controller&lt;/a&gt; is a must to get those locomotives to run slow and steady.  

I do not own any Tenshodo steam because I just don&#039;t like the look of steam that is not NA. Everything I have heard is positive though. I will say if I had not had a pay freeze I&#039;d own one just to tinker.  However, with times tight, I will wait for AZL.  

Sum of the whole. Z steam, when running well, is a sight to behold. However, it takes work and some research for sure. Quite frankly if not for the MT moguls, I might not have even entered Z scale and I would have stayed in N completely (heck they have just about everything now).

I think when AZL gets that Mikado out, it will be a watershed mark like the Kato Mikado was in N scale. Why we do not have NA steam with Kato style tender pickups is a mystery to me. Model RR in Z needs steam.  More importantly good running steam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, </p>
<p>Right now, as John made reference to, &#8220;going under the hood&#8221; is a must if you run steam by Marklin. Don&#8217;t be daunted, they are very robust and you will learn so much by just doing it. Proper cleaning and lubrication is a must!</p>
<p>Even the old MTL moguls are using Marklin mechanisms.  I must add, the use of <a href="http://www.ztrackcenter.com/electronics/" rel="nofollow">Gaugemasters</a> and a good speed controller like the Jorger or <a href="http://www.ztrackcenter.com/electronics/" rel="nofollow">Snail Speed Controller</a> is a must to get those locomotives to run slow and steady.  </p>
<p>I do not own any Tenshodo steam because I just don&#8217;t like the look of steam that is not NA. Everything I have heard is positive though. I will say if I had not had a pay freeze I&#8217;d own one just to tinker.  However, with times tight, I will wait for AZL.  </p>
<p>Sum of the whole. Z steam, when running well, is a sight to behold. However, it takes work and some research for sure. Quite frankly if not for the MT moguls, I might not have even entered Z scale and I would have stayed in N completely (heck they have just about everything now).</p>
<p>I think when AZL gets that Mikado out, it will be a watershed mark like the Kato Mikado was in N scale. Why we do not have NA steam with Kato style tender pickups is a mystery to me. Model RR in Z needs steam.  More importantly good running steam.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 20:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

I&#039;m glad we could be of service to you today. There&#039;s a good amount to be learned in Z, especially if you move towards things like DCC, very exciting stuff! As I always suggest with new Z scalers, start small and get a feel for the equipment and most important... enjoy the process!

John
Ztrains</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad we could be of service to you today. There&#8217;s a good amount to be learned in Z, especially if you move towards things like DCC, very exciting stuff! As I always suggest with new Z scalers, start small and get a feel for the equipment and most important&#8230; enjoy the process!</p>
<p>John<br />
Ztrains</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hyland</title>
		<link>http://www.ztrains.com/introduction/steam-locomotives-in-z-scale/#comment-949</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Hyland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you John so very much for your information. I will be studying these sites and doing much more research on Z trains. I have a lot to learn and by the looks of things there is a lot of interest in Z. I am truly excited about the future of Z and looking forward to keeping in touch with you and other Z enthusiasts. I am open to comments and tips as well as obtaining magazines etc. on Z trains. 

Cheers 
Mike 
Prince George B.C. Canada</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you John so very much for your information. I will be studying these sites and doing much more research on Z trains. I have a lot to learn and by the looks of things there is a lot of interest in Z. I am truly excited about the future of Z and looking forward to keeping in touch with you and other Z enthusiasts. I am open to comments and tips as well as obtaining magazines etc. on Z trains. </p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Mike<br />
Prince George B.C. Canada</p>
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